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		<title>By: Phil Bowermaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will --

Good points. It could be that once NASA turned the corner from being an agency that managed grand endeavors to one that issues space-use permits, there was no going back. Per the discussion last night, protecting infrastructure is a valid role -- but not a very inspiring one.

Regarding that last idea, those AI mining robots out in the Asteroid Belt will eventually descend on Earth will a full &quot;liberation&quot; Armada built from the very ore they were constructed to retrieve.

The pitch: It&#039;s Terminator meets Battlestar Galactica.

I&#039;d watch it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will &#8211;</p>
<p>Good points. It could be that once NASA turned the corner from being an agency that managed grand endeavors to one that issues space-use permits, there was no going back. Per the discussion last night, protecting infrastructure is a valid role &#8212; but not a very inspiring one.</p>
<p>Regarding that last idea, those AI mining robots out in the Asteroid Belt will eventually descend on Earth will a full &#8220;liberation&#8221; Armada built from the very ore they were constructed to retrieve.</p>
<p>The pitch: It&#8217;s Terminator meets Battlestar Galactica.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d watch it!</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given how you&#039;ve framed this question, Phil, I don&#039;t think we &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; keep discussion politics-free.  Best I can do is try to keep things as generic as possible.

Governments are creations for initiating some measure of control over a collection of individuals (hereafter &quot;the citizenry&quot;).  Bureaucracies like NASA are simply less transitory efforts to impose same on generations of citizens.  Absent some sort of existential threat &lt;i&gt;to the government&lt;/i&gt; (however logically inconsistent, people do tend to seperate governmental entities from the general citizenry), I  can&#039;t think of any reason for said government to &lt;i&gt;see it being to it&#039;s own advantage&lt;/i&gt; to relax it&#039;s efforts at achieving and maintaining control over the citizenry.  

The trick then becomes one of framing the issue as an existential threat that is best resolved by as diffuse a government regulatory environment as can be manipulated &lt;i&gt;by the citizenry&lt;/i&gt;.  This can take the form of a traditional political threat, of course, but I suspect something more along the lines of the cinematic &lt;i&gt;Armageddon&lt;/i&gt;-type circumstance (an existential threat who&#039;s resolution lies off planet) would actually prove to be more achievable as a practical matter.

I have lately been thinking about the concept of linking AI development with just such an effort (extra-planetary resource development) as a mechanism to accelerate (and restrict the threat potential) of both.  Needs more thought still.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given how you&#8217;ve framed this question, Phil, I don&#8217;t think we <i>can</i> keep discussion politics-free.  Best I can do is try to keep things as generic as possible.</p>
<p>Governments are creations for initiating some measure of control over a collection of individuals (hereafter &#8220;the citizenry&#8221;).  Bureaucracies like NASA are simply less transitory efforts to impose same on generations of citizens.  Absent some sort of existential threat <i>to the government</i> (however logically inconsistent, people do tend to seperate governmental entities from the general citizenry), I  can&#8217;t think of any reason for said government to <i>see it being to it&#8217;s own advantage</i> to relax it&#8217;s efforts at achieving and maintaining control over the citizenry.  </p>
<p>The trick then becomes one of framing the issue as an existential threat that is best resolved by as diffuse a government regulatory environment as can be manipulated <i>by the citizenry</i>.  This can take the form of a traditional political threat, of course, but I suspect something more along the lines of the cinematic <i>Armageddon</i>-type circumstance (an existential threat who&#8217;s resolution lies off planet) would actually prove to be more achievable as a practical matter.</p>
<p>I have lately been thinking about the concept of linking AI development with just such an effort (extra-planetary resource development) as a mechanism to accelerate (and restrict the threat potential) of both.  Needs more thought still.</p>
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