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		<title>By: D. Vision</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/philosophy/a-reasonable-an.html#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Vision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to diverge too much, but I think the whole stem cell debate is framed in exactly the wrong terms. Everyone agrees that the central issue is the morality of destroying embryos, with the disagreements being over how moral it is, or whether the benefits outweigh the costs.

This is a moral dillema that will not be resolved by government legislation, and I don&#039;t think that the government should have the power to make this moral determination. Thus I think regardless of the merits of funding this research, the government should not have the power implicitly answer the question by fiat and apportion funding, over the very valid objections of people who are ultimately paying for the research.

I don&#039;t think the government should fund ethically questionable practices.

Ironically, the decision of Roe vs. Wade is instructional in this regard. Roe basically established that the legislature cannot intrude upon the choice of a woman unless there is an moral imperative to do so. So far that moral imperative has not been successfully established.

However, in this case, funding of stem cell research would mean that the legislative branch (which apportions research money) has an imperative to fund this research, where very clearly there are those who believe that there is a fundemental moral imperative not to.

The result should be obvious for a libertarian--the government cannot force the issue.

Let private funds go to stem cell research while. Let states decide.

Until there is an imperative one way or the other, federal funding should be left out of the mix.

A lot of people are acting as if there is some kind of imperative on the government to fund research. That&#039;s funny. There doesn&#039;t seem to be a moral imperative for the government to pump billions of dollars into Intel&#039;s next generation microprocessor, yet surprisingly enough, the microprocessor market is thriving and research is well funded; the state of the art in this area is advancing primarily because of the energy of private industry.

Similarly for drug companies. Pfizer didn&#039;t need billions of government dollars to research Viagra--there was enough of a business opportunity to motivate intense research, and because they are a big company, they have the capital to fund long-term research in developing new drugs.

Private industry can and will develop stem cell technology. Until we decide that the federal government has a moral imperative to intervene one way or the other, we should continue to let them pursue it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to diverge too much, but I think the whole stem cell debate is framed in exactly the wrong terms. Everyone agrees that the central issue is the morality of destroying embryos, with the disagreements being over how moral it is, or whether the benefits outweigh the costs.</p>
<p>This is a moral dillema that will not be resolved by government legislation, and I don&#8217;t think that the government should have the power to make this moral determination. Thus I think regardless of the merits of funding this research, the government should not have the power implicitly answer the question by fiat and apportion funding, over the very valid objections of people who are ultimately paying for the research.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the government should fund ethically questionable practices.</p>
<p>Ironically, the decision of Roe vs. Wade is instructional in this regard. Roe basically established that the legislature cannot intrude upon the choice of a woman unless there is an moral imperative to do so. So far that moral imperative has not been successfully established.</p>
<p>However, in this case, funding of stem cell research would mean that the legislative branch (which apportions research money) has an imperative to fund this research, where very clearly there are those who believe that there is a fundemental moral imperative not to.</p>
<p>The result should be obvious for a libertarian&#8211;the government cannot force the issue.</p>
<p>Let private funds go to stem cell research while. Let states decide.</p>
<p>Until there is an imperative one way or the other, federal funding should be left out of the mix.</p>
<p>A lot of people are acting as if there is some kind of imperative on the government to fund research. That&#8217;s funny. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be a moral imperative for the government to pump billions of dollars into Intel&#8217;s next generation microprocessor, yet surprisingly enough, the microprocessor market is thriving and research is well funded; the state of the art in this area is advancing primarily because of the energy of private industry.</p>
<p>Similarly for drug companies. Pfizer didn&#8217;t need billions of government dollars to research Viagra&#8211;there was enough of a business opportunity to motivate intense research, and because they are a big company, they have the capital to fund long-term research in developing new drugs.</p>
<p>Private industry can and will develop stem cell technology. Until we decide that the federal government has a moral imperative to intervene one way or the other, we should continue to let them pursue it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/philosophy/a-reasonable-an.html#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil:

I argued awhile back for another landmark moment - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speculist.com/archives/000786.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;differentiation&lt;/a&gt;.

This occurs about 10 days post-conception.

Prior to that moment in time, a fertilized egg often fails to develop (about half the time nature discards fertilized eggs), or it can develop into one baby, two babies (in the case of identical twins), or even part of a baby in the rare case of chimeras.

The fact that a fertilized egg only develops into a baby half the time doesn&#039;t convince me that its not a human.  A fetus at the beginning of the second trimester might not be born alive, but I don&#039;t doubt its that it should be protected.

But the fact that there is more than one other possible outcome (something other than dead tissue or living baby) for a predifferentiation fertilized egg does convince me.

If a fertilized egg has the potential in nature to be part of a human, one human, or two humans, the destiny of a fertilized egg is objectively undetermined â€“ much like the undetermined nature of the gametes that formed it.

But after differentiation the stage is set.  The fertilized egg is committed to one of those three paths.

Prior to that commitment I would argue that we have human tissue (that is due some protection and respect), but it is no more of a person than a sperm or egg.

On the other hand I am hopeful that the tiresome argument may soon become a moot argument.  There is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002817.html#002817&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reason&lt;/a&gt; to hope that one day we will be able to take adult stem cells back to an embryonic stem cell equivalent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>I argued awhile back for another landmark moment &#8211; <a href="http://www.speculist.com/archives/000786.html" rel="nofollow">differentiation</a>.</p>
<p>This occurs about 10 days post-conception.</p>
<p>Prior to that moment in time, a fertilized egg often fails to develop (about half the time nature discards fertilized eggs), or it can develop into one baby, two babies (in the case of identical twins), or even part of a baby in the rare case of chimeras.</p>
<p>The fact that a fertilized egg only develops into a baby half the time doesn&#8217;t convince me that its not a human.  A fetus at the beginning of the second trimester might not be born alive, but I don&#8217;t doubt its that it should be protected.</p>
<p>But the fact that there is more than one other possible outcome (something other than dead tissue or living baby) for a predifferentiation fertilized egg does convince me.</p>
<p>If a fertilized egg has the potential in nature to be part of a human, one human, or two humans, the destiny of a fertilized egg is objectively undetermined â€“ much like the undetermined nature of the gametes that formed it.</p>
<p>But after differentiation the stage is set.  The fertilized egg is committed to one of those three paths.</p>
<p>Prior to that commitment I would argue that we have human tissue (that is due some protection and respect), but it is no more of a person than a sperm or egg.</p>
<p>On the other hand I am hopeful that the tiresome argument may soon become a moot argument.  There is <a href="http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002817.html#002817" rel="nofollow">reason</a> to hope that one day we will be able to take adult stem cells back to an embryonic stem cell equivalent.</p>
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