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		<title>By: da55id</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3739</link>
		<dc:creator>da55id</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[February of last year I gave up sugar  and sugar substitutes from all sources except fruit . Over the course of 6 months I lost 15 pounds. I have kept to that regime without difficulty, but have gained back more than half of that weight. In reviewing my life style changes that might explain this increase (if indeed it IS a result of LS change), I noted that I ceased commuting to work  which involved a total of one mile or so walk getting to and from subway transportation in favor of full telecommuting. My current plan is to try out deskwalking - combining a high drafting table - where I&#039;ll use my laptop - with a motorized one mile per hour  treadmill where instead of sitting at the computer, I&#039;ll be slowly walking or at least standing much of the time.

On another note, I am in awe of how efficient our bodies are. We are obviously programmed to walk all day long, and all the interventions listed above either fight that program or attempt to use it.

Cheers,
Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>February of last year I gave up sugar  and sugar substitutes from all sources except fruit . Over the course of 6 months I lost 15 pounds. I have kept to that regime without difficulty, but have gained back more than half of that weight. In reviewing my life style changes that might explain this increase (if indeed it IS a result of LS change), I noted that I ceased commuting to work  which involved a total of one mile or so walk getting to and from subway transportation in favor of full telecommuting. My current plan is to try out deskwalking &#8211; combining a high drafting table &#8211; where I&#8217;ll use my laptop &#8211; with a motorized one mile per hour  treadmill where instead of sitting at the computer, I&#8217;ll be slowly walking or at least standing much of the time.</p>
<p>On another note, I am in awe of how efficient our bodies are. We are obviously programmed to walk all day long, and all the interventions listed above either fight that program or attempt to use it.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: steviek2000</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3738</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 12:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with fat storage is that it costs the body very little to keep fat around.


The trick to losing weight is you have to trick the body into &#039;thinking&#039; that excess fat is costing it alot.  They way to do this is climbing exercies like walking up stairs for a long period of time, doing lots of leg exercies like squats, biking up hills.  The body then starts to think that &#039;hey it is costing me alot of calories to keep carrying this fat&#039; up the hill and it will start to adjust the amount of fat it has.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/Story?id=3922069&amp;page=1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with fat storage is that it costs the body very little to keep fat around.</p>
<p>The trick to losing weight is you have to trick the body into &#8216;thinking&#8217; that excess fat is costing it alot.  They way to do this is climbing exercies like walking up stairs for a long period of time, doing lots of leg exercies like squats, biking up hills.  The body then starts to think that &#8216;hey it is costing me alot of calories to keep carrying this fat&#8217; up the hill and it will start to adjust the amount of fat it has.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/Story?id=3922069&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/Story?id=3922069&#038;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3737</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about liposuction? Does physical removal of fat cells have any influence on set point or is it a false lead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about liposuction? Does physical removal of fat cells have any influence on set point or is it a false lead?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3736</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, don&#039;t be too reluctant on gastric bypass surgery, especially if you&#039;re starting to get some of the other symptoms of chronic obesity like high blood pressure and diabetes. Once those start to manifest, your battle with obesity will become a life-and-death matter, literally. And, the surgeries are getting increasingly sophisciated and less invasive. They can often do it laparoscopically now, which greatly reduces risks, as well as pain and recovery time. It&#039;s clearly not for everybody, but long-term, if your battle continues and the weight continues to creep up, you should definitely think hard about it. It could, literally, save your life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, don&#8217;t be too reluctant on gastric bypass surgery, especially if you&#8217;re starting to get some of the other symptoms of chronic obesity like high blood pressure and diabetes. Once those start to manifest, your battle with obesity will become a life-and-death matter, literally. And, the surgeries are getting increasingly sophisciated and less invasive. They can often do it laparoscopically now, which greatly reduces risks, as well as pain and recovery time. It&#8217;s clearly not for everybody, but long-term, if your battle continues and the weight continues to creep up, you should definitely think hard about it. It could, literally, save your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3735</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very good and fair take on all of this. Although for the record, the number I&#039;ve used is &quot;less than 1%&quot; and not any precise number and not something quite as low as 0.1%. The number I use is based on review articles that have been published in scientific journals on obesity. The number isn&#039;t quite as dire as it sounds, as people who lose some weight and maintain it (like you, Phil, and as it happens, me, although I&#039;m not relevant) are substantially more common--probably closer to your 10% figure.

I would agree with you that treatments are getting better and more sophisticated all the time. This is in part because overweight and obesity rates have been skyrocketing for decades and the health problems it causes are enormous.

What you might find interesting is that Metformin is now being used as a weight loss drug, as you mention in your list. What you may not know is that it&#039;s been around for a long, long time as a treatment for Type II Diabetes. Its exact mechanisms are not fully understood, however, it&#039;s not an appetite suppressant or a stimulant or a nutrient-blocker, which is what most diet drugs do. It was simply noticed that diabetics on the drug tended to lose weight fairly spontaneously. In the last 20 years it&#039;s become increasingly evident that most obese people are diabetic or at least pre-diabetic, so doctors who treat obesity began trying it on their patients, even those without formal diabetes diagnoses, and guess what? A lot of obese people respond very well to it.

What it seems to do is give people with insulin control problems better insulin control. Insulin is linked to appetite, but its main function appears to be to cause the body&#039;s fat cells to store energy. Better insulin control would tend, therefore, to reduce fat storage in fat people.

This all goes back to the &quot;thought experiment&quot; I posted a couple of days ago; if your fat cells work abnormally hard to store energy, and/or are abnormally reluctant to release energy, then, you&#039;re going to have a much easier time gaining weight and a much harder time losing it.

Insulin&#039;s not the only key of course, but it&#039;s clearly got a role here, as do a lot of other things, some of which we almost certainly don&#039;t really know about.

I&#039;m pretty sure by the 2020s we&#039;ll have the problem solved, as the medical and scientific community is working hard on solutions that go beyond the 3000 year old advice of &quot;just watch what you eat and exercise more.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good and fair take on all of this. Although for the record, the number I&#8217;ve used is &#8220;less than 1%&#8221; and not any precise number and not something quite as low as 0.1%. The number I use is based on review articles that have been published in scientific journals on obesity. The number isn&#8217;t quite as dire as it sounds, as people who lose some weight and maintain it (like you, Phil, and as it happens, me, although I&#8217;m not relevant) are substantially more common&#8211;probably closer to your 10% figure.</p>
<p>I would agree with you that treatments are getting better and more sophisticated all the time. This is in part because overweight and obesity rates have been skyrocketing for decades and the health problems it causes are enormous.</p>
<p>What you might find interesting is that Metformin is now being used as a weight loss drug, as you mention in your list. What you may not know is that it&#8217;s been around for a long, long time as a treatment for Type II Diabetes. Its exact mechanisms are not fully understood, however, it&#8217;s not an appetite suppressant or a stimulant or a nutrient-blocker, which is what most diet drugs do. It was simply noticed that diabetics on the drug tended to lose weight fairly spontaneously. In the last 20 years it&#8217;s become increasingly evident that most obese people are diabetic or at least pre-diabetic, so doctors who treat obesity began trying it on their patients, even those without formal diabetes diagnoses, and guess what? A lot of obese people respond very well to it.</p>
<p>What it seems to do is give people with insulin control problems better insulin control. Insulin is linked to appetite, but its main function appears to be to cause the body&#8217;s fat cells to store energy. Better insulin control would tend, therefore, to reduce fat storage in fat people.</p>
<p>This all goes back to the &#8220;thought experiment&#8221; I posted a couple of days ago; if your fat cells work abnormally hard to store energy, and/or are abnormally reluctant to release energy, then, you&#8217;re going to have a much easier time gaining weight and a much harder time losing it.</p>
<p>Insulin&#8217;s not the only key of course, but it&#8217;s clearly got a role here, as do a lot of other things, some of which we almost certainly don&#8217;t really know about.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure by the 2020s we&#8217;ll have the problem solved, as the medical and scientific community is working hard on solutions that go beyond the 3000 year old advice of &#8220;just watch what you eat and exercise more.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bowermaster</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3734</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian --

Good point. I should have mentioned myostatin inhibitors. I said I wouldn&#039;t want to take any of those &quot;weight-loss&quot; drugs, but I would sign up for follistatin or another established myostatin inhibitor as soon as it become available. Per Stephen&#039;s point, this is another line of research with a huge commercial upside -- &quot;the Viagra of muscles.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211;</p>
<p>Good point. I should have mentioned myostatin inhibitors. I said I wouldn&#8217;t want to take any of those &#8220;weight-loss&#8221; drugs, but I would sign up for follistatin or another established myostatin inhibitor as soon as it become available. Per Stephen&#8217;s point, this is another line of research with a huge commercial upside &#8212; &#8220;the Viagra of muscles.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: advancednano</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3733</link>
		<dc:creator>advancednano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe one of the pathways to successful weight control will be increasing lean muscle mass myostatin inhibition by boosting follistatin. This can boost lean muscle mass a lot (30-50%). It makes exercise far more effective. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/myostati-inhibitor-update-boosting.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Myostatin article&lt;/a&gt;

Each pound of lean body mass, which includes skeletal muscle, burns a bit over 13 calories a day at rest. 910 calories from body fat in a week for an extra 10 pounds of muscle. It will take about 27 days to lose a pound of body fat (12 pounds per year, IF the person does not increase food/calorie intake). So with some cardio exercise it would be a substantial help for weight control. 

I believe myostatin/follistatin control will be the safe and more effective version of steroids.

It would definitely make the TNT diet more effective. Any health risks like possible increase in tendon injuries needs to be offset against health gains from weight control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe one of the pathways to successful weight control will be increasing lean muscle mass myostatin inhibition by boosting follistatin. This can boost lean muscle mass a lot (30-50%). It makes exercise far more effective. </p>
<p><a href="http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/myostati-inhibitor-update-boosting.html" rel="nofollow">Myostatin article</a></p>
<p>Each pound of lean body mass, which includes skeletal muscle, burns a bit over 13 calories a day at rest. 910 calories from body fat in a week for an extra 10 pounds of muscle. It will take about 27 days to lose a pound of body fat (12 pounds per year, IF the person does not increase food/calorie intake). So with some cardio exercise it would be a substantial help for weight control. </p>
<p>I believe myostatin/follistatin control will be the safe and more effective version of steroids.</p>
<p>It would definitely make the TNT diet more effective. Any health risks like possible increase in tendon injuries needs to be offset against health gains from weight control.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bowermaster</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3732</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t even thought of that angle. You&#039;re right. Somebody is going to make a fortune.

If I were a betting man, I&#039;d say that the most likely winner will be a drug that inhibits the insulin receptor gene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t even thought of that angle. You&#8217;re right. Somebody is going to make a fortune.</p>
<p>If I were a betting man, I&#8217;d say that the most likely winner will be a drug that inhibits the insulin receptor gene.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/healthmedicine/the-future-is-t.html#comment-3731</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like a safe and effective treatment for obesity &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; to be right around the corner.

Ten years ago Pfizer stumbled on a certain blockbuster drug called Viagra.  That success would be nothing compared to a safe and effective thin pill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like a safe and effective treatment for obesity <i>has</i> to be right around the corner.</p>
<p>Ten years ago Pfizer stumbled on a certain blockbuster drug called Viagra.  That success would be nothing compared to a safe and effective thin pill.</p>
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