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		<title>By: Sally Morem</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Morem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What&#039;s more, if productive labor is so cheap as to be almost free, that means more money can be spent on design. If labor costs approach zero, you can but a new product for the cost of material, which means most people will need less money to maintain their standard of living.&quot;

An excellent point.  Kurzweil says something similar, that the radical drop in prices in computers and communications devices are in essence deflationary, and are rarely taken into consideration by economists.

Once information technologies take hold in all other areas of our economy, radical deflation will hit them, too.  Especially as 3D printers are upgraded to nanotech replicators.

At that point, economic scarcities will vanish forever and our guest&#039;s worries about loss of jobs will vanish with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s more, if productive labor is so cheap as to be almost free, that means more money can be spent on design. If labor costs approach zero, you can but a new product for the cost of material, which means most people will need less money to maintain their standard of living.&#8221;</p>
<p>An excellent point.  Kurzweil says something similar, that the radical drop in prices in computers and communications devices are in essence deflationary, and are rarely taken into consideration by economists.</p>
<p>Once information technologies take hold in all other areas of our economy, radical deflation will hit them, too.  Especially as 3D printers are upgraded to nanotech replicators.</p>
<p>At that point, economic scarcities will vanish forever and our guest&#8217;s worries about loss of jobs will vanish with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bowermaster</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5ive --

In fairness, in the book (and I think in our discussion, too) Martin acknowledges that this is not a new trend and not a new argument. His point is that Luddite arguments that were wrong in the past eventually become tue in the face of accelerating technological development. Your point about the offsetting benefits of the decreasing cost of goods was discussed in part  two of the series with Cory Doctorow. We&#039;ll also be exploring that further next week in part 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5ive &#8211;</p>
<p>In fairness, in the book (and I think in our discussion, too) Martin acknowledges that this is not a new trend and not a new argument. His point is that Luddite arguments that were wrong in the past eventually become tue in the face of accelerating technological development. Your point about the offsetting benefits of the decreasing cost of goods was discussed in part  two of the series with Cory Doctorow. We&#8217;ll also be exploring that further next week in part 3.</p>
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		<title>By: 5ive</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5125</link>
		<dc:creator>5ive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My god, was this discussion frustrating to listen to.  What Martin describes has already happened.  

In 1880, about 70% of U.S. jobs were in agriculture.  Now about 3% are.  Those jobs were lost to efficiency, productivity and automation improvements.  In 1970, IBM employed about 400,000 people, now they employ about 150,000.  Most of those lost jobs are clerical jobs that MS Office and email have eliminated.   If Martin&#039;s economic theories held water, his doomsday would already have arrived.  Simi

If Martin lived in 1900 and saw 70% of U.S. jobs dissapearing, he would feel the same way he does now about world wide manufacturing jobs.  If his foresight was as deficient then as it is now, he would not know that IT Guy, Pizza Delivery Guy, High School Football Coach, Newscaster, Taxi-Driver, Drug Dealer, Barista or Electrical Engineering jobs would be coming to replace them.  New types of jobs will come along.

What&#039;s more, if productive labor is so cheap as to be almost free, that means more money can be spent on design.  If labor costs approach zero, you can but a new product for the cost of material, which means most people will need less money to maintain their standard of living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god, was this discussion frustrating to listen to.  What Martin describes has already happened.  </p>
<p>In 1880, about 70% of U.S. jobs were in agriculture.  Now about 3% are.  Those jobs were lost to efficiency, productivity and automation improvements.  In 1970, IBM employed about 400,000 people, now they employ about 150,000.  Most of those lost jobs are clerical jobs that MS Office and email have eliminated.   If Martin&#8217;s economic theories held water, his doomsday would already have arrived.  Simi</p>
<p>If Martin lived in 1900 and saw 70% of U.S. jobs dissapearing, he would feel the same way he does now about world wide manufacturing jobs.  If his foresight was as deficient then as it is now, he would not know that IT Guy, Pizza Delivery Guy, High School Football Coach, Newscaster, Taxi-Driver, Drug Dealer, Barista or Electrical Engineering jobs would be coming to replace them.  New types of jobs will come along.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, if productive labor is so cheap as to be almost free, that means more money can be spent on design.  If labor costs approach zero, you can but a new product for the cost of material, which means most people will need less money to maintain their standard of living.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleob</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5124</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is certainly an important topic. I&#039;m very interested in reading his book, but from what I hear on the show he doesn&#039;t make the case to me for dramatic redistributionary    schemes. This is an old argument and I think we need better in these truly unprecedented times. Anyone interested in this subject should check out Henry Hazlitt&#039;s classic &quot;Economics in one Lesson&quot;. The appropriate section for this topic is entitled &lt;a href=&quot;http://jim.com/econ/chap07p1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Curse of Machinery&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly an important topic. I&#8217;m very interested in reading his book, but from what I hear on the show he doesn&#8217;t make the case to me for dramatic redistributionary    schemes. This is an old argument and I think we need better in these truly unprecedented times. Anyone interested in this subject should check out Henry Hazlitt&#8217;s classic &#8220;Economics in one Lesson&#8221;. The appropriate section for this topic is entitled <a href="http://jim.com/econ/chap07p1.html" rel="nofollow">The Curse of Machinery</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5123</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will:

We covered your question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will:</p>
<p>We covered your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Brown</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/fastforward_radio/fast-forward-ra.html#comment-5122</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will try to catch the show but just in case, ask Mr. Ford if he thinks fully independent (even if networked together) robots are more likely in industrial/service settings or human-operated mecha via tele-presence instead (not only traditional industrial work but FedEx-type delivery driver, book store sales clerk, restaurant wait-staff, etc)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will try to catch the show but just in case, ask Mr. Ford if he thinks fully independent (even if networked together) robots are more likely in industrial/service settings or human-operated mecha via tele-presence instead (not only traditional industrial work but FedEx-type delivery driver, book store sales clerk, restaurant wait-staff, etc)?</p>
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