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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/environment/renewable-resou.html#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil:

You&#039;re right, and no disrespect meant to the &quot;huddled masses.&quot;

Thinking of it this way - there was never any danger that Ben Franklin (as brilliant as he was) would invent an airplane.  He was just not living in a time and place where he could contribute to that effort.  Scientists and inventors always stand on the shoulders of others.

&quot;the former is slowing while the latter is rising&quot;

and at a increasing pace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, and no disrespect meant to the &#8220;huddled masses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thinking of it this way &#8211; there was never any danger that Ben Franklin (as brilliant as he was) would invent an airplane.  He was just not living in a time and place where he could contribute to that effort.  Scientists and inventors always stand on the shoulders of others.</p>
<p>&#8220;the former is slowing while the latter is rising&#8221;</p>
<p>and at a increasing pace.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bowermaster</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/environment/renewable-resou.html#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen wrote:

&quot;But freedom has a Pandora quality too.&quot;

Exactly. As does economic growth. 

EP suggests that &quot;subsistence farmers and third-world slum dwellers&quot; won&#039;t contribute much to innovation. Perhaps not. But then again, how many of us have ancestors a few generations back who were subsistence farmers? It&#039;s true, few of us are descended from third-world slum dwellers. I think the term used back in the day was &quot;huddled masses.&quot;

Population growth unaccompanied by economic growth offers little. But the fact is that, pretty much everywhere in the world, the former is slowing while the latter is rising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;But freedom has a Pandora quality too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. As does economic growth. </p>
<p>EP suggests that &#8220;subsistence farmers and third-world slum dwellers&#8221; won&#8217;t contribute much to innovation. Perhaps not. But then again, how many of us have ancestors a few generations back who were subsistence farmers? It&#8217;s true, few of us are descended from third-world slum dwellers. I think the term used back in the day was &#8220;huddled masses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Population growth unaccompanied by economic growth offers little. But the fact is that, pretty much everywhere in the world, the former is slowing while the latter is rising.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/environment/renewable-resou.html#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EP:

I agree with your idea that innovation does not necessarily scale according to population size.  A society has to be &quot;plugged-in&quot; - be part of the network of the first world in order to make meaningful innovations.

Some governments want it both ways - China comes to mind.  They want the success that freedom brings, without the fuss.  To the extent that they allow freedom, they succeed.  But freedom has a Pandora quality too.

Anyway, Rand and Phil are right about the environment.  The solution will come from humans who are free to innovate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EP:</p>
<p>I agree with your idea that innovation does not necessarily scale according to population size.  A society has to be &#8220;plugged-in&#8221; &#8211; be part of the network of the first world in order to make meaningful innovations.</p>
<p>Some governments want it both ways &#8211; China comes to mind.  They want the success that freedom brings, without the fuss.  To the extent that they allow freedom, they succeed.  But freedom has a Pandora quality too.</p>
<p>Anyway, Rand and Phil are right about the environment.  The solution will come from humans who are free to innovate.</p>
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		<title>By: Engineer-Poet</title>
		<link>https://blog.speculist.com/environment/renewable-resou.html#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineer-Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 01:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately for Simberg, just because the prescription of the watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) is wrong does not mean that their diagnosis is incorrect.&lt;p&gt;

Ditto human ingenuity; innovation does not necessarily scale according to population, but by population which is enabled to innovate.&#160; The per-capita innovation of educated, high-technology societies is demonstrably orders of magnitude above that of subsistence farmers and third-world slum dwellers; increasing the numbers of the latter is unlikely to result in any net increase in human welfare.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for Simberg, just because the prescription of the watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) is wrong does not mean that their diagnosis is incorrect.
<p>Ditto human ingenuity; innovation does not necessarily scale according to population, but by population which is enabled to innovate.&nbsp; The per-capita innovation of educated, high-technology societies is demonstrably orders of magnitude above that of subsistence farmers and third-world slum dwellers; increasing the numbers of the latter is unlikely to result in any net increase in human welfare.</p>
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