Comments on: No 24 or Trek Spoilers Here

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online forex currency trading systems — Mon, 11 May 2009 05:09:08 +0000

Strange as it seems you were not paying attention. He did not get the Red Matter until spock returned in the other ship. It was on SPOCKS ship.First he enters space and comes upon the U.S.S. Kelvin. Time is effectively screwed up when this encounter happens and JTK dad is killed and the ship is lost.NERO waited for Spock 25 years to exact revenge on SPOCK PRIME.Actually it was quite eligent. Sorry I think you should pay Attention instead of thinking there was really a plot hole.

By: Blue Line

Blue Line — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:05:10 +0000

STAR TREK fans? Hmm, What I like from the movie is the outer space fantasy.

By: Phil Bowermaster

Phil Bowermaster — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:59:04 +0000

Ah, but this is where it gets confusing. The official story of Chronos the Denier is that he was never a registered commenter on this site. All Karl Hallowell comments are thus now attributed to Karl Kallagher, except for threads that included comments from both. Those threads are simply no longer part of Speculist continuity.

By: Karl Hallowell

Karl Hallowell — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:59:19 +0000

I'm sorry but I'm no longer Karl Hallowell. I'm now Chronos the Denier (*insert echo effect*) with a completely new backstory including tragic 1995 nuclear reactor accident and costume upgrade.

By: Stephen Gordon

Stephen Gordon — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:56:53 +0000

“Siskorf” – dude you’re supposed to give spoiler warnings before giving that plot point away!

By: Phil Bowermaster

Phil Bowermaster — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:30:37 +0000

When it comes to retconning, Star Trek is bush league. I used to read DC comics: "Supergirl is Superman's younger cousin!" "Oh, no! She's dead!" "Wait, she's not dead. She never existed!" "No wait. She exists, but she's not his cousin. She's an alien influenced by a good version of Luthor in a Pocket Universe!" "Her life is kind of like that of the original Supergirl!" "Oh, no! She's dead!" "No wait. The real Supergirl is Superman's cousin. She just got here later than expected!" Multiply that kind of nonsense times every character in the DC universe. Abrams woud have to have Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, and Archer all attending SFA together (maybe make Archer and Janeway brother and sister while you're at it, and make Sisko into Siskorf -- an amalgam of the characters we know as the original Sisko and Worf) to even come close to DC-level retconning.

By: Karl Hallowell

Karl Hallowell — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:29:04 +0000

I'd have thought that you'd be used to the retconning that a show like Star Trek gets. I'd just consider it a "what if" the big 3 were at the Academy together and then decide whether to watch the movie based on its merits. You can assume that people will know most of the background and ignore describing technology and social that would otherwise suck time out of your story. At this point, Star Trek background and characters are more a short hand for telling tales. But are they interesting tales?

By: Jay Kominek

Jay Kominek — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:53:54 +0000

I read the spoilers. Your question can’t be answered based on the information they provide. On the bright side, they provide no reason to believe that Kirk and Picard are at SFA at the same time.

Additionally, the plot described on that page sounds much less stupid than I had feared it would be.

By: Phil Bowermaster

Phil Bowermaster — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:13:39 +0000

That's a nice endorsement, but it hardly answers my question. Now you've got me scared that they'll have Kirk and Picard attending SFA together! :-0

By: Stephen Gordon

Stephen Gordon — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:59:44 +0000

Phil:

I read the spoilers and I’m excited about this movie now. I think Star Trek fans of the both the Picard era and the Kirk era will be given something to cheer here.