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		<title>Bring on the Meat Factories</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bowermaster</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On August 31, 2007 my wife took me out for dinner at a Japanese steakhouse where I ate my last beefsteak &#8212; for a year, if not for the rest of my life. This occurred on the heels of a reasonably obnoxious George Dvorsky essay on why we should have all already given up eating [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img alt="Japanesesteakhouse.jpg" src="https://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/Japanesesteakhouse.jpg" width="120" height="120" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="6"/>On August 31, 2007 my wife took me out for dinner at a Japanese steakhouse where I ate my last beefsteak &#8212; for a year, if not for the rest of my life. This occurred on the heels of a <a href="http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2007/08/meat-eaters-are-bad-people.html">reasonably obnoxious George Dvorsky</a> essay on why we should have all already given up eating meat and why meat-eaters are (George&#8217;s words) &#8220;bad people.&#8221; Dvorsky&#8217;s essay led to an <a href="http://www.betterhumans.com/blogs/philbowermaster/archive/2007/08/16/Transhumanist-Rhetoric.aspx">interesting discussion</a> about the merits of the case vs. his in-your-face rhetorical approach. I tend to think that there is a lot to be said for the former, and not much to be said for the latter. </p>
<p>On the subject of the former, I wrote:<br />
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<p>I&#8217;ve written more than once on my belief that the world will one day be a meatless &#8212; although not necessarily vegetarian &#8212; place. I agree that it&#8217;s wrong to cause animals undue pain. I agree that our current industrialized livestock management practices are abhorrent. And, from a purely practical standpoint, I think we&#8217;ll have a much stronger moral footing with our AI descendants if they see us treating weaker / arguably inferior life forms with as much kindness as possible. In short, I think I&#8217;m just about ready to be persuaded that I should give up eating dead animals altogether.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the subject of the latter, I wrote:<br />
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<p>Here we have a world-class futurist taking an &#8220;I&#8217;m good; you&#8217;re bad: be like ME&#8221; approach that even the most backward fundamentalists dropped decades ago. You see a lot of this kind of thing among &#8220;progressive&#8221; thinkers when dealing with the great unwashed who haven&#8217;t yet achieved their level of enlightenment. (An example &#8212; for whatever reason, atheists seem particularly prone to these excesses when arguing against belief in God. This could be a reverse application of the old adage that &#8220;converts are the worst.&#8221; Which would also apply to George, I suppose, what with his five-year tenure as a morally superior being.)
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<p>But then Dvorsky fired back with what I think was a fairly sound defense of his approach:<br />
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<p>Let&#8217;s imagine for a moment that I had written an article titled &#8216;Racists are bad people,&#8217; or &#8216;Homophobes are bad people.&#8217; Do you think I would have received the same kind of negative response? Hardly. Aside from a few anachronistic and unenlightened perspectives I&#8217;d get a slew of comments saying, &#8216;right on, brother.&#8217;</p>
<p>But the fact that I didn&#8217;t get these sorts of supportive comments, aside from a small minority, indicates to me that our transition to a mostly meat-free society is a process still in its infancy.</p></blockquote>
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